Trey: Hello and welcome back to a bonus
episode of MCU need to know a podcast

dedicated to the Marvel cinematic universe
and everything that you need to know.

I'm

Jude: I'm Jude, how are you doing Trey?

Trey: I am really excited because
we are here to talk about Shang-Chi

and the legend of the 10 rings.

Jude: Yes.

Super excited for this.

I think I even mentioned this.

On yesterday's release, right?

Like, like I don't, I didn't know
enough about Shang-Chi that this was

something that I feel like I was going
in just super clean slate, you know?

And I didn't do a lot of research
on it either for that reason.

Um, and so this was really fun to watch.

Trey: Yeah.

It's, it's not often, and not only for
me with the lack of comic book knowledge,

but just at the point in which we
are in the MCU where everything is a

sequel now, it's not often you get an
origin story like this, or in another

character to the tapestry of the MCU.

So it's just exciting.

Jude: Yeah.

Yeah.

It was super fun and super exciting,
you know, to go to see this.

Yeah.

Trey: Well, it's clear that if you
downloaded this episode, it, you

know, we're going to be talking about
Shang-Chi and the legend of the 10 rings.

Uh, the way we're going to handle this is
we do have some pre spoiler thoughts here.

So if you have not seen the movie yet,
but you just kind of wanted to taste of

what it's like this section is for you.

Uh, by the time we get to the end
of it, you'll hear an audio cue,

which will take us to the spoilers.

So before we get there, Jude, what are
your pre spoiler thoughts for Shang-Chi

Jude: I have a couple of things.

Uh, first the soundtrack was great.

Yes.

I've been listening to it since.

Um, I brought my oldest with me to see it.

Um, I didn't, I didn't see by
myself, but I do want to mention,

like I brought my oldest with me.

Uh, the didn't want to go at first,
but I was like, you're you need

to go, you gotta go see this.

I mean, loves to watch anime, you
know, and, and very much like once

to learn Mandarin, you know, just
really fascinated with Asian culture.

And like, you gotta see this
movie, you don't get to stay home.

Um, so she begrudgingly went
and then she's afterward.

It was just like, Thank you so much
for making sure that, you know, uh,

so that was, that was a fun experience
to take it, to see that, uh, together.

Um, and then the other one was just, uh,
is this we're still pre-spoiler thoughts?

Um, right.

So let me just put it this way.

Uh, it was what I was expecting.

It didn't disappoint, but when it came
to cinematography and choreography,

Yes, and I'll leave it there.

Okay.

And you initial thoughts go,

Trey: I have done my best to separate
recency bias and the general feeling

of hype coming out of the movie.

But I have stood to this.

What I texted you after watching it.

I said, this is a top five MCU
movie after thinking about it.

This is in my top three it's in
game, winter, soldier and Shang-Chi

and the legend of the 10 rings.

Absolutely love this movie.

So what did, what did it bum?

It bumped Spider-Man I think, dude,
yeah, I'll have to go back and check

because I think we did, we did our top
five in the very first pilot episode.

I couldn't remember if it was Spider-Man,
but I think that's the one that got bumped

Jude: down.

Okay.

Wait a minute.

What were your top three again in game

Trey: winter soldier and
Shang-Chi and the legend of the

10 rings then iron man three.

And Dr.

Strange.

Yeah, of course you would

Jude: bump Spidey over Cap.

Okay.

What

Trey: I mean is that.

Jude: No, it's not a surprise.

It's.

Trey: I love Spiderman, but that's just
speaks to how great this was and to, to

kind of, uh, sum up my spoiler thoughts.

I think the thing that was outstanding
is that this movie marries the

action and the story flawlessly.

So often when we're talking about shows.

Uh, specifically the movies, but
sometimes the Disney plus shows we

enjoy action scenes, where there is
a narrative meaning for the action

and not just like a spectacle.

This had everything we talk about
about clear communicated goals, a

thrilling ramp-up of those difficulties
as those goals change because you

know, the fights evolve and it's,
it's just really satisfying to watch.

And in hand with that because the movie
feels so meticulously plotted each scene

plays off the one before it and sets up
the one next that the pacing, I didn't

think about time at all in this movie.

Like it was just one great pace
movie from start to finish.

And if I can, and again,
I might be biased in this.

So like I already talked about
how it's shot up to my top three.

So this might, I don't know how
much weight this holds, but I also

wrote down this has put Shang-Chi
in the realm of captain Rogers, Dr.

Strange and Ironman for me like that.

Like I need him in every movie now
because I cannot wait to see him pop up.

Jude: How long it will take to get
them in to get him into something

Trey: else.

Fingers crossed not, not
too long, but we'll see.

Jude: Well, because, cause
I mean, you mentioned Dr.

Strange, you know, Dr.

Strange had his movie and then we
didn't see him again until infinity war.

Well,

Trey: unless you count Ragnarok,
Ragnarok, but it isn't, it isn't

Jude: well, okay.

So to give you an idea, Ragnarok
because it slipped my mind.

It wasn't that signifcant.

In terms of screen time
and what he did, you know,

Trey: it's what we want from a
connected universe, but it's not

what we want if you're a fan of Dr.

Strange, does that make sense, right?

Yeah.

Jude: Yeah.

A hundred percent.

And so that's, that's why I was
like, you know, when are we going

to get to see Shang-Chi again?

Yeah.

Trey: So one more thing to wrap
up my pre spoiled thoughts, and

we can jump into the spoiler zone.

Cause I feel like we're
tiptoeing on the edge.

There it's something I
actually tweeted about.

I think when the first trailer
dropped where don't get me

wrong, I enjoyed black widow.

I've been enjoying my time with the Disney
plus shows, but black widow was a prequel

the Disney plus shows feel like a lateral.

Even if it is much needed, but a
lateral step with the characters that

we are getting to know closer, this
feels like the first firm step forward.

Um, and it's, it was exciting to see
that this, this era of the MCU begin.

Yeah.

Jude: Oh yeah.

Yeah.

And I think I told you that,
um, prior to you seeing it.

Was was a similar sentiment of
just the excitement of seeing this.

Like, it felt like seeing a Marvel
movie for the first time, even

though I'd seen black widow, um,
just because it was new and that

Trey: step forward.

Yeah.

And, and just to hammer home the point
that like, that's not in a pejorative

sense to black widow, because much like
the lateral step of the Disney plus

shows it, it informs these characters in
a way that makes them that much deeper.

Yes, but this is goes hand in hand with
getting to know characters and getting

to see the universe move forward.

Yeah.

Jude: Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, cause you know, we're
clearly in phase in the next phase.

And so far everything we've gotten to the
next phase is characters we already know.

And, and building on that, we know that
we're getting all these new characters,

miss Marvel, She-Hulk uh, working on
Moon Knight, you know, we're, we're

getting all these new characters
and this is the first Eternals.

Um, You know the other Spidey's,
uh, you know, uh, I think

there's new characters anyways.

Let's stay on topic.

Uh, but

Trey: I think there are rumors,

Jude: but I mean, if they get
brought in, are they new, even

though they're familiar anyways,
stay on topic, stay on target style.

Yeah.

Like this is the first new.

Character.

And that was that that's I think
what helped it made it so much fun.

Trey: Yeah.

Well, I think that's going to
wrap up our pre spoiler thoughts.

So let's go ahead and jump
in to the spoiler zone.

So like we said, you're going to hear an
audio cue and on the other side, it'll

be fair game for all spoilers in the MCU.

We'll see you on the other side.

Jude: We're back on a dark desert highway.

Cool.

Wind in my hair.

And up through the

I'm going to spare everybody else.

Trey: I was enjoying it.

Like we talked about this.

I didn't expect you to go for so long.

I almost got my lighter out and
started going back and forth.

Yes, which would be very
dangerous being in a closet.

Yes.

Yeah,

Jude: absolutely.

Pull out the tip jar, watch people
walk by and not put anything in it.

Trey: And the podcasting world, the tip
jar is following us on social media.

So if you enjoy that performance
@MCUNeedtoKnow need to know.

Dude.

I, I think the way we're going to do this
since it's just us, the simplest question,

did this movie meet your expectations?

Jude: Yes.

Next question.

Trey: Um, all right.

Thank you so much for listening.

We'd like to thank Nick Sandy.

Uh,

Jude: no, it, it did like, so what am
I, what a movie that I truly enjoy.

And this is where I stopped when you're
talking about the choreography movie that

I remember seeing in the theater that
I truly enjoyed was the crouching tiger

hidden dragon and the wire work they did.

And just how fluid it was in the
choreography, you know, just the

intentional movements, but it felt
like a dance and getting to watch this

choreography and just seeing how much
it was fighting, but it was dancing.

I just, I just loved, you know,
even, you know, It was like, not,

you know, not at the beginning where
Mandarin I'm just gonna use Mandarin

right now met his future wife.

And that was clearly like a courtship in
the fighting, um, which was fantastic.

But even in this, like the bigger
battles, it just felt like a, like a

dance and I just loved it, you know?

And, and that.

You know, I guess what I was
expecting from the choreography

expecting to see that, uh, which
we hadn't seen in the MCU before.

Trey: Yeah.

You know, we have a group text where
you with Tara and I had mentioned that

this isn't an original idea, but I've
seen this sentiment expressed so often.

That w in musicals, whenever the emotions
get so overwhelming, the characters just

break out into song because that's the
only way for them to express that this

takes that feeling, but with fighting and
it's so appropriate that you mentioned

the fights feeling like dance sequence,
because there is such a huge spectrum

of the way this movie handles combat.

There is your traditional
like, okay, this, this is your

goal between protagonists and
antagonists, they're fighting.

But there is that beginning sequence
where, when we is meeting with the

woman that he falls in love with
where it is fighting, but it evolves

into more of that dance feeling.

So yeah, I think you're a hundred
percent spot on with that.

Yeah.

Jude: And when Shang-Chi at the
end fought with his dad and they

had the callback to it, you know,
and, and I think that kind of.

Is what sparked our helped,
you know, she show his dad

that like, no, mom's not gone.

Mom is with us, you know, through us.

Uh, and, and I really enjoyed,
you know, the ancestor of

iteration and, and how much yeah.

Of that part of the culture
was, was a part of the story.

And, and you can see that like in that
dance, in that moment, There, uh, it

was, it was just, it was wonderful.

Trey: Yeah.

You know, we're speaking about the
action and the choreography of this

film, circling back to one of the
things that I was talking about in the

pre spoiler thoughts with the clearly
communicated goals of action sequences.

The thing that I think that was so.

Is it again, it's an, on-ramping where
we start off, which it's funny to

call the bus fight as a starting point
because it already out the gate is

incredible, but that's our beginning
point to the till we get to the end.

And the thing they did, I think
brilliantly is the task is the pendant.

We learn about that in the beginning,
sequences we've realized how much it means

to and then that's the simple goal, which
is paired against like, Hey, don't die.

It works well.

And specifically the one that I think
was the strongest for me is whenever

they were leaving the fighting arena
from sister and they were scaling

down the side of the building.

Again, the same goal is the pendant,
but pair that with them, trying to

safely navigate this, the dangers of
being on the side of the building, and

eventually having Katie hanging off the
side that small, easily communicated.

Heightens the danger of
Katie almost being in peril.

And I dunno, like throughout each
sequence, I was just completely blown

away about how clear everything was.

Jude: I'm glad you brought that up.

Cause I, I, so for me very
quickly, it's like, okay, there's.

Right and, and watching it.

And that's just the way I, I think
w as I watched these, these movies,

um, but I liked their use of it.

Uh it's.

Hmm.

How to explain this.

So for those who don't know, a
MacGuffin is usually an object.

Sometimes it's a person, uh,
Hitchcock was really into this, but

it's the object that the audience
really doesn't know a lot about.

And they don't really tell you a lot
about it, but it's what drives you.

The story, we got to get this or
that, uh, George Lucas, you know, the

MacGuffin was the droids and, and star
wars and the death star plans for him.

He thought you had to
care about the MacGuffin.

They get the audience in.

And that was something that really stood
out to me with these, these people is

it was like it was an object, but it was
definitely something that, because it

was attached to their mom that they cared
about and it helped me care about it.

Yeah.

You know, and then to see that
there was matching pendants

that brought them together.

It helps of, of finding,
you know, their ancestors.

I, I really enjoyed the use of it.

Trey: Yeah.

Yeah.

It's just, it's, it's simple, effective
storytelling because you know, those

pendants to any, like you said, it
doesn't mean anything to the audience,

but because we got that build up to
Shang cheese mom, giving it to him and

telling him what it means and, and the,
you know, we will always be with you.

It, it heightens the
emotional feeling of those.

So, again, this is, I'm trying
to be careful because I know I

love this movie so much that I'm
just clearly going to be gushing.

And I want to, at least, while we're
talking about the action, say this, the

fighting style of the rings itself may
be my new favorite weapon in the MCU.

Maybe even over the shield because
the shield has a lot of meaning, which

that's something I don't think can
be touched, but as far as just pure

mechanics of the weapon, those rings.

God, so many miles out of them and
it was just incredibly inventive.

It was brutal.

And it had the ability to like alternate
between like flight and just pure force.

And it was, it was a surprise to me.

I didn't know how much they were going
to get out of those rings as a weapon.

And I was just continuously blown away.

Oh, I

Jude: fully expect to
see you wearing rings.

Next time I, X time we see each other,

Trey: I passed target and I saw them in
the toy section and I thought about it.

I didn't, but I thought about it.

I was picking up a
Shang-Chi Funko pop instead.

Uh, but yeah, I really, I really,
really enjoyed, um, that addition

to just the arsenal of the MCU

Jude: sorry, I just, I just went to Amazon
real quick and just typed in Shang-Chi

just to see what toys there were.

Trey: This is why we're
doing a podcast together.

I was expecting a joke or
like a little poking fun.

You immediately went to go buy something.

Jude: I know what Trey is going
to be for Halloween this year.

So thinking about the rings,
what I really loved was the CGI.

I mean, it's Marvel.

The CGI is going to be good, but you
know, you have the great protector,

the flying dragon and the soul sucking
monster that they had to fight.

Um, I can hear it.

Now, some of the complaints that
you typically get from Marvel movie,

You know, oh, it's the faceless army
that you're fighting kind of thing.

Um, I don't really ha I didn't really
have that problem, you know, so,

and mainly because, you know, Dr.

Strange and guardians of the galaxy
opened up kind of that door to this

mystical and it, and we started
venturing down that and exploring that,

um, you know, differences, guardians
of galaxy was out in space, right?

Dr.

Strange was on.

Earth and they kind of tease that,
but this, I felt like they just

kicked it open with the dragon
and everything, everything else.

And like, it's a place on earth you
can get to, that's just this mystical.

Um, and I really, really love that
they, that, that that's being embraced.

And I hope that that in a sequel
you know, or somewhere that

th this goes is even further.

Trey: Yeah.

Because the world we're introduced to is
just breathtaking, like all of the, the

very familiar, but no, Of earth creatures.

We were seeing with the lions and
the horse and the horrifying faceless

winged rat that, uh, Trevor Slattery
had, like, it's such an interesting

world that I just want to see more.

It was cute.

Jude: What do you call it?

It's

Trey: cute.

It was man.

This is a very unpopular week for me.

I was complaining about not
feeling anything at the Dr.

Strange movie.

And now I think that thing is not cute.

It's it's

Jude: uh, it's a dog.

Who's not gonna like steal my sandwich.

That.

Trey: Oh, so that's why you enjoy it.

So

Jude: it doesn't have a
mouth to steal my sandwich.

This is amazing.

Trey: Is that not horrifying to you?

Can you imagine, like not

Jude: having, not having to worry about.

Sandwich being stolen.

We

Trey: clearly come from
two different worlds

Jude: full of sandwiches.

I was telling my wife about that.

That's never going to happen.

She goes, I take your sandwiches.

Oh,

Trey: well, I guess it's tied to
invest in a new favorite snack.

Jude: The thing is, is I'm
really good at making sandwiches.

Trey: That's why he keeps taking them.

You got to make crappy ones.

Oh, really, you know, I want to
circle back to what you were saying

about the, the faceless villains
and maybe some of the complaints

of the, the, the set pieces.

I think one of the common criticisms the
MCU gets is like, Even on movies where

people are like, oh yeah, I did like that.

But by the time they got to the end, it's
like, it's your typical MCU CGI Fest.

The thing that I think works so well
for this movie is that yes, it does

have your huge MCU spectacle, CGI
sequences, but it's again, marrying

the narrative to what's happening.

The moment I'm thinking of in
particular is whenever Shang Chi and

Xialing are on the dragon and she
has fallen off and Shang-Chi she is

like holding onto her with the rings.

And it's this moment that builds to
like, Hey, you have to let me go.

So you can do this.

We get that story close.

I'm not leaving you again.

And he holds onto her.

Meanwhile, we have Katie who's whole
story arc about finding who you are and

finding something to Excel in has that
sequence, a winning shot, where she

shoots through the dragon with the arrow.

And so everything is just this buildup
to satisfying narrative conclusions

that it's not just a CGI Fest.

It is married to what the
point of the movie is.

Yeah, very well put, I love this movie.

Jude: We wait on months for it to hit.

Trey: Oh, I, because if this was
on Disney, plus, as soon as I, as

soon as I got home from the theater,
I would have had it up again.

That's how much I was
just like smitten by it.

Yeah.

So, you know, one thing I did
want to bring up because we

have gone to bat for iron man.

Time and time again.

And I even tweeted out on
my personal Twitter account

in my new top five ranking.

And I had somebody respond
to is like, I'm so excited.

I'm going to see it.

Although I'm having trouble understanding
what your list is because I see Ironman

three up there among other great movies

Jude: and so misunderstood.

I'm in

Trey: Iceland.

So I feel like I need to speak to a little
bit of the Trevor Slattery aspect of this.

You know, there were, there was a part
of me where I was expecting like, Hey,

he's probably going to be mentioned.

At some point they put the all hail
to the king, one shot on Disney.

Plus you don't do.

It's like whenever a TV
show does the previously on.

And it shows like important scenes.

It's signaling that something's coming.

So I expected whenever he appeared on
screen, it was going to be a one-off

nod to iron man three and move forward.

Somehow it worked with Trevor Slattery
being a companion, because not only

did he add that levity, but there's
something about the self-awareness that

this character has, that feels like.

A nice return to iron man three.

So if you've listened to our podcast
review, we talked about one of the

successful things that that movie does
is that it uses quote unquote terrorist

iconography to show the obsession that
America has with terrorism and how easily

it is for them to be controlled that way.

And even though it does that in
a satisfying way, I think there

is still some onus on the movie
to understand why that's wrong.

Having Trevor Slattery returned
with his self-awareness of being

like, yeah, it was a bit tasteless.

What I did, I did bring the
country to its knees and all that.

Is a vocal embodiment
of that and realization.

So that felt like more than
just a one-off joke, but a nice

reflective closure of that story.

Yeah.

Jude: Yeah.

And that was a big question going in,
like how do you do the Mandarin when

you've already done the Mandarin before?

And I think they did it really well.

Um, and I'm glad that they did all hell.

They can't like, I don't w I didn't want
them to ever walk back what they did or.

Iron man three, you know?

Cause I, I thought it was great, but
I'm glad that they did all hell the

king cause, cause it opened up that
door, you know, for later, um, which

again, they walked right through
it and did it fabulous with it.

Trey: Yeah.

Well, and that was the thing like, cause
whenever we did our one-shot episode, I

remember saying like, I don't know how
you call back to this without it being.

Awkward.

And I think they did well.

And one of the ways they kind of do
this is Wenwu, we're, whenever they're

at the dinner table where Katie Xialing
and Shang- Chi are at the dinner table.

When we was explicitly states,
there was an American actor,

who, you know, used my name.

He terrorized the country
with a fruit and it's.

So he was like making fun
of it right then and there.

And.

It, it did show the silliness of it.

And I think even specifically
mentions the appropriation of it.

So, yeah, it's just nice to get that
realization like, Hey, that was not right.

So I'm glad they had that growth.

You know, speaking of Wenwu
this is my last quick thought.

I think he is a top tier Marvel villain.

So often when we're discussing
the villains in the MCU.

We talk about having a character
that is in the wrong, but we

understand where they're coming from.

We may even relate to it, but it is
on this path of watching them fail.

So it's hard to say a character who.

Use the 10 rings to conquer for a thousand
years, but there is some nugget of

relate-ability to that redemption that
he gets at the end, whenever he kind of

nods to his son as he's passed on the
rings before, you know, passing away.

And so he, for me, Like, I think Tony
Leung gives a performance that is the

emotional through line of this film.

And so much of it is working in
tandem because the entire cast, the

chemistry, the action, the writing
is wonderful, but the emotional core

of this film is from Tony Leung and I
think that's what allows this movie to.

Yeah.

One of the

Jude: things like take Thanos and infinity
war, um, and he was such a good villain

because we got to see him, we got to
see the inner workings of his mind, you

know, why is he doing what he's doing?

Um, it wasn't like this power grab,
you know, and here in Shang-Chi like,

they, he, the villain learned that.

You know, having all this power,
wasn't fulfilling having this family

and this relationship is what was
fulfilling and he laid down his power.

And, and the drive to get that back after
losing it and feeling guilty of, you know,

the family is like, whose fault was it?

You didn't, you watched, you know, and
didn't step in, uh, you weren't here,

you know, and, and, and wrestling with
the loss of a family member and the

grief and how it tears a family apart,
um, like that I think helped make it

a compelling villain that we're not
just watching somebody who's just.

You know, I'm going to take
over the world, you know?

Uh, and I think that's, I think that
is what makes such a good villain.

Trey: God, I can't wait
to watch this again.

There's, there's so much to
grasp at it that I just, I can't

get it all in the one view.

And I've gotten at this point
in the recording, but whenever

it comes to Disney plus.

I'm going to be pouring over
this movie from start to finish.

Well, that's going to leave us with
just the post credit scenes to tackle,

which we do have to in this movie.

Uh, the first one is where Wong is
explaining to and Katie about the

beacon that is found within the
rings themselves and the camera pans.

And we realize that it's not just Wong,
who is examining the rings, but we have.

Bruce banner who is not smart Hulk
and Carol Danvers who are being

projected in through holograms.

Uh, so starting with this one,
you got any thoughts here, dude?

Jude: I was really surprised to
see banner and Carol Danvers me.

I was expecting to see
strange since we had walls.

Yeah.

And so that really surprised me

Trey: and I, I, I think they're even
leaning into it too because Bruce

Banner's the first one to speak.

So I think the movie's playing into
your expectation of hearing another

male voice, but when it's not Dr.

Strange, who has a very
distinct voice from Benedict

Cumberbatch, it's a positive.

Wait, hold on.

And then it kicks in as a camera reveals.

And it's just a wonderful surprise to
see, not just banner, but Carol Danvers.

Well, yeah.

Jude: Yeah.

Well, and we know they're
both coming, right?

Like Banner's gonna show up
and She-Hulk um, Carol Danvers,

you know, we have the marvels.

I don't know if she's
showing up in miss Marvel.

It wouldn't surprise me if they got
Brie Larson for a cameo on that, or

even Monica Rambo on that, but you know,
her is coming so, but, so who's Dr.

Strange.

So yeah, it was, I liked it.

I'm glad they went

Trey: that way.

And I like what it means for the
Avengers overall, because Wong was

already explaining to him like the
trajectory of your life has now changed.

Go home and get some rest and be
ready because something's coming.

And not only does that.

Jude: Or, sorry, good.

Or what that well, that's

Trey: which that reminds
me, this should have been.

Another one of the common
criticisms that this is quick.

One of the other common criticisms that
MCU gets is that it doesn't allow serious

moments to breathe and interjects comedy.

This episode, this episode, this movie,
I think balanced that so wonderful.

And compared to all the other MCU
movies, because it did have it serious

moments, but it also had moments like.

Or, or whenever Shang-Chi was giving
like a detailed history of his past

and the flight attendant interrupts
them with their meal options.

Jude: Yeah.

That was the one time where I was
like, okay, this is definitely Marvel

Trey: I felt it, but it worked.

Jude: Yeah.

The one with the flight attendant.

That was definitely like, okay.

Trey: And that might be just me
being smitten about this movie

anyway, jumping back to it.

I just like what it means overall,
because I've never considered

strange part of the Avengers.

He felt like somebody that was working
with them, but at the end of the day,

he would return to the sanctum sanctorum
and do what he needed to do as a sorcerer

right.

The fact that Wong is there speaking
to Bruce banner and Carol Danvers

makes me feel like it's, it's just
as connected as it was an in game.

And that we're seeing the
continuation of it, because one of

the things that I talked about with
where does smart Hulk go for me?

I really would have liked to have
seen him take over for Natasha as

being the one to lead the Avengers,
because he's only, he's one of the few

remaining left of the original writers.

So I'm getting that
feeling and that's nice.

And then, and Carol Danvers, seeing
that she's staying in touch as well.

I'm excited for the future.

Jude: I'm really curious of what they're
going to do with the tin rings next.

Trey: So there's a throwaway line
where Shang-Chi mentions that his

sister is going to shut down the 10
rings and that second post credit

scene we get is a realization.

She has not shut down.

The 10 rings.

She has taken over and done a
lot of wonderful renovations,

but ultimately has taken over.

Yes.

Jude: I don't want to see her become
the bad person villain, but yeah.

But whatever, I'll take it.

I let's get more of those characters.

Like it was a great and I'd love it,
but it was just kinda like, oh, okay.

That's not, that's not
what I was expecting.

Trey: Yeah, I, it was, it wasn't what
I was expecting either, because it

felt like you got that family closure
and things would be back to better.

But yeah, it's, it's hard to, to
see how she'll take the 10 rings,

positive direction, given the status
of that name throughout history.

But yeah, that's going to do it
for our quick reactions to and

the legend of the 10 rinks.

Did you see the movie?

We want to know what you thought,
which you can reach us @MCUNeedtoKnow

on Twitter and Instagram, uh, to
give us your impressions of the film.

Jude: Of course you can
also join our discord.

The link will be in the show notes.

Uh, you'll get to interact with us.

A number of other guests that's been
on the pod and the community that

loves the MCU just as much as you do.

And then of course the best thing
you can do for us to share with us.

Trey: Yeah.

We'd also like to thank Nick Sandy for
the use of our theme song, which is

his rendition of the Avengers theme.

You find more of his work on a SoundCloud,
which is linked in the show notes.

That's going to do it.

Thank you so much for listening and Jude.

Thank you so much for doing this.

Thank you Trey.

We'll see you all next week.

Welcome

Jude: to California.

Okay.

Uh, I wasn't sure.

Okay.

So you wanna start that over
with, are we doing that now?

Yeah, let's just do a
countdown real quick.

Okay.

Where are we starting?

I think with that, welcome to the hotel.

Okay.

Okay.

1, 2, 3.

Welcome.

Welcome.

Let's try this one more time.

Trey: I think we found our bonus social

Jude: media.

Cut.

Yeah, 1, 2, 3, and start.

Okay.

1, 2, 3, welcome

three start.

I started

Trey: with you.

Is there a delay?

There might be a delay.

Are we, are we finding out this
is not going to be possible?

Jude: Okay.

Let's try this one more time.

Okay.

No.

We're good.

Let's try one more time.

Okay.

1, 2, 3.

Welcome to the

such a lovely place, a lovely
place, such a lovely face.

Plenty of room at

anytime of you

Trey: anytime.

Or

Jude: you can find it here.

I think that's enough.

Trey: Yeah.

We're not, we're not using this Roe.

Jude: You can promise me you're separate.

We're separate tracks.

You could probably line us up.

Trey: I have a very.

I want to use the whole thing.

I'll figure it out in the editing,
but that's so, that's so funny.

All right.

Maybe I should, maybe I should
hit up Nick, Sandy, like,

Hey, can you cover California?

That's so funny.

And if this makes the cut, I
would never do that to you, Sandy.

Bye.

All right.