Trey: Hello and welcome back to another
episode of MCU Need to Know a podcast

dedicated to the Marvel cinematic
universe and everything you need to know.

I'm Trey.

Jude: I'm Jude.

How you doing, Trey?

Trey: Well, Jude, I am
not introducing anybody.

Don't know why I said, well Jude.

Jude: I was gonna say, who's our guest?

Trey: Our guest is ourselves because
we have not recorded for three

weeks and man does it feel weird.

Jude: Yeah.

Okay.

So when I went down there, um, you know,
to, to your house, I brought my mic.

Uh, it didn't use it.

Right.

But I just wanted to show you, cause you
hadn't seen the new mic yet in person.

I have not pulled it out of the box yet.

Like, so that took me a
little bit longer to set up.

Cause that was all broken down
when I usually kind of leave it

out, um, kind of leave it out.

I usually leave it out.

So yeah.

So I was like, How do I
set all this up again?

I'm not sure I have it exactly how
I used to do it, but it'll work.

Trey: Yeah.

It's not.

Hey, it sounds good to me, but yeah,
that was, you came in on October 9th.

That was the last time we recorded it.

If I'm not mistaken.

And it is October 28th.

And so it's been, it's been a
bit, it's been a nice break.

Uh, but yeah, I'm, I'm definitely, it
feels like we're not quite ready to call

it back in the groove because I don't
think for me that won't start until

Hawkeye starts and we still got a few
weeks before then, but it's been good.

Jude: So real quick for the listeners.

You wouldn't, you, you took a little trip.

I did.

But what did you get to see in Chicago?

You sent me all this.

Trey: Yes.

So I got to meet up with my friend,
uh, Ned, who I've mentioned on the

podcast before and some other friends.

And, uh, we had to exhibit in the
museum where it was like this.

Marvel exhibit where it wasn't
just specifically MCU, but they

definitely had MCU stuff as well.

And I got to see like costumes worn by the
actors or something that stood out to me.

The most that I was so excited
about was in winter soldier.

They have like those really cool
in credit scenes, they had the

original art sketches for those like
silhouette images that looks so cool.

And so, uh, Yeah, it was, it was
a camping trip was the intention.

But we had enough time that we
ended up going to that, that exhibit

a before we left for that trip.

And man, it was so fun to
just geek out with Marvel

Jude: stuff.

Send me those pictures
that were really cool.

And you sent them to the part of
injures text, which is me and Tara.

I swear, we both thought Tara and
I both thought you were going to

pull a Killmonger or something.

Trey: I did stare at the shield
for a very long time because

it was so cool just to see.

But yeah, I, uh, I gotta,
I gotta organize those.

I'll I'll put it on our socials,
uh, whenever this episode

drops, but, uh, yeah, so cool.

But of course, if you download this
episode, then you know, we're going to be

talking about what to expect in Eternals.

So we're only a few days away
from the release of this movie.

And we wanted to just get on the
record and some of the things

that we are excited about.

Uh, so I don't know if we've, we've stated
this every time we've done one of these,

but I think it is important for us to say
we're only going to be discussing the.

Teaser trailer and the final
trailer, all the promos that have

come after that, at least for me.

And I'm assuming you too, Jude are
off limits just because of the way

that we have our trailer policies.

Jude: Yeah, no, that's,
I think that's accurate.

I, yeah.

I try to stick with the
teaser and the first trailer.

Uh, which is weird this time, the final
trailer, it seems like that was it.

Yeah.

Trey: We, we were talking about that
before we recorded where it feels like

the way they do trailers is changing, uh,
because of the rapid fire succession of

movies, TV shows, whatever, as well as.

Holding on to promos until closer
to time, there really is only time

for a teaser and a single trailer.

And then a myriad of
like small cut promos.

Jude: And also I think with
the speculation about where

the movies get pushed because,
uh, the continuing pandemic.

Um, until they know for sure, they're
kind of holding, they're holding some

of the trailers back and I get it.

Like, I wouldn't want another black
Twitter situation where you get

this trailer and it's like a year
later year and a half later from the

Trey: trailer.

If I'm not mistaken, this is pure.

Off memory.

So if I'm getting this wrong, I'm
sorry, but if I'm not mistaken, I

think for a while there then them
two was looking like it was going to

get pushed back very significantly.

Chunky came out and did well.

And then they came back to their
original October release date.

So I think you're spot on with
that holding onto trailers until

more definite release dates.

Uh, just because of the fluctuations of
being in a pandemic and releasing movies.

Jude: I'm just going to say this.

I feel like with venom, going ahead to
be released that signifies Marvel moving

forward with some other movies that are
set to be released, try to put it that

Trey: way.

You know what?

So I got two things to say.

We, we just started like a new segment.

And the podcast where we talk about
the MCU need to know news of the

week when we've been on break.

So we haven't been able to do it, but
two, knowing that there are full-on

spoilers out there for eternal is like
blatantly in headlines of articles.

I've been avoiding, uh, looking up
anything just for my own sake, but

something that has happened since the
last time we recorded is there has

been a shift in the release dates.

I don't know exactly, but I know Dr.

Strange moved down.

Word love and thunder
and so on and so forth.

Those had nothing to do with
the pandemic and just more

of the production side of it.

But I say that to say I, cause cause there
was a while there where we was like, oh

man, is Spiderman gonna be pushed back?

I am pretty dead set that it is for sure.

Coming out at this point, just
based off the, um, results of

movies, like no time to die, venom,
Shung G everything seems to be.

Pretty set for these big blockbuster
movies coming to theaters.

Jude: Yeah, I think that's it.

I'm excited.

It's set because I'm

Trey: ready.

Well, speaking of being ready,
uh, like we said, we are going

to be talking about eternal.

So the way that we do this is
we're basically going to just take

turns, sharing a thing that we
are going to be expecting for this

movie based off those two trailers.

So Jude starting with you,
what's something you're expecting

from this, a turtles movie.

I'm expecting

Jude: it to be.

In, in like scale, you know what I mean?

Like, because from what I understand,
it's supposed to cover a long

range of time in human history.

And so I, I'm kind of
expecting that epic feel it.

How am I that I don't
want to say spectacle.

I don't want to go to that.

Um, but just kind of that,
that overwhelming, like,

whoa, this is big feel.

If that makes sense.

A

Trey: hundred percent makes sense.

I think we've gotten to the point in
our language where I think epic does get

thrown around a lot, but I understand
the usage from you of what you mean.

This is an epic kind of scale.

So yeah, that totally makes sense.

Yeah.

What about you?

Well, that leads nicely into one of my
first expectations, kind of that epic

grand scale, uh, feeling that this
movie is bringing with those trailers.

I'm starting with the obvious one.

I think this is going to be.

One of the most visually
striking movies in the MCU.

Um, there's a shot that stood out to me
in particular, I believe in the first

trailer that came out where it's Gemma
Chan's character, who is standing in

front of this bus that is coming crashing.

And she turns it into like a
myriad of red flowers or roses.

And it's just like a very beautiful
shot as it just kind of like swarms

around kit Harrington's character.

And, you know, they have stuff
like that or they have the various.

Man, I don't know how to describe
it, but just kind of like an

earthy color palette to it.

That is also in contrast to
some of the more Royal colors in

the characters outfits whenever
they're in their full-on costumes.

So there's a lot of striking visuals
that this movie's playing with.

That seems like it's going to be
really, really exciting to see even

the way that it seems like their
powers are depicted, where it's kind

of like them channeling this golden.

Design.

I don't know how to describe it.

It just looks really cool.

Jude: Yeah.

I think you're right.

Just, just from the trailer, I'm
imagining these vivid colors.

Well, they show the, what is it?

The Babylon, the gates of Babylon or
ancient Mesopotamia, you know, um,

And just the blue just really jumped
off the screen and kind of that

gold, I think it was in lay on it.

Accents and yeah.

So I agree with you.

It's going to be, and that's to
me, I think that's part of it.

Like you said, that epic feel.

Trey: Yeah.

The contrast is what stands out
to me the most, because there's

another shot where Angelina Jolie's
character is in this room where it

seems like there's these teal drapes.

And she kind of does the striking
motion and the drapes fall.

Everything.

It's a nice blend.

There's this earthy colored everything,
because it is ancient times, you know,

Civilizations just starting, but the
Royal colors that they were playing

with to signify these internals is
just a nice contrast between those two.

Yeah.

What about you?

What's another thing that
you're expecting in this

Jude: movie.

Oh, I'm expecting to see John Snow.

No,

Trey: you know, nothing.

That was the leaner than I've ever done.

Go for it.

Jude: Wow.

Uh, I know I'm embarrassed.

I am actually looking forward to
seeing, uh, Richard Madden on screen.

Um, I enjoyed his work in game of Thrones.

I don't think I've seen
him in anything else.

Uh, like I know he's been in stuff,
but I don't think I've just seen it.

And so I'm looking forward
to seeing what he does.

Um, and, and actually just, I
mean, I say that, but just the cast

in general, you know, and cause
I, I feel like it's has such a.

I say diverse skillset looking at, at
the cash and where they're drawing from,

um, that I'm really looking forward to
seeing what this cause it's an ensemble.

I mean, it is like, like it's on
the scale of the Avengers in terms

of the number of characters and the
main characters we're going to have.

Um, and so seeing that balance,
seeing what they can do with

it, I'm really looking forward.

I expect it.

I expect you to be done well to put
into that language, you know, like,

like, like I don't have any fears.

Of their ability to hell, let everybody
have their moments and show what

Trey: they can.

Yeah.

I mean, that's something we've definitely
talked about before, whenever we did

our kind of spotlight on the Russo
brothers episode, we talked about

the use of ensembles in the MCU.

And I think we kind of charted it
back to Ironman too, as being one

of the first ones to really tackle
it because it had so many different

characters outside of just iron man.

Um, all that to say, like the
MCU is really good at ensembles.

I mean, oh, you almost have
to be, if you're going to pull

off stuff like the Avengers.

So I.

Even though I didn't
articulate that in my thoughts.

I back you up 100% of like, I'm
not worried about them juggling a

large cast because that's kind of
the bread and butter of the MCU.

And I do want to play off what you
said about Richard Madden as well.

I think he is a phenomenal actor too.

I wish I could remember
the name of the series.

He was in something that was highly
praised, uh, right after game of Thrones.

So I know he's definitely put out
some good work and, uh, with game of

Jude: Thrones right after his run
or game of Thrones, or right after

a game of Thrones, Right after his

Trey: run.

Well spoilers, but yeah,
right after his rudder

Jude: game of Thrones, he was on
game of Thrones when it was good.

Yeah.

Trey: Listen, this is our first recording.

Back after three weeks, I'm
going to be careful about

kicking the wasp's nest on this.

Jude: Here's why I realized spoilers, but
if they haven't seen it at this point,

I'm going to show my, all my cards.

I'd say.

Trey: Wow us.

Jude: I was their salvation.

I snapped

let them know that they only
need to see half the show happens

to include Richard Madden.

Trey: Oh my God.

Instead of the director's
cut, we got the Jude cuts.

You just stopped halfway
through, game it through.

Jude: Oh, he was in 1917.

Okay.

He was

Trey: wasn't.

He.

Jude: I'm ashamed.

I have not seen that.

So I'm trying to

Trey: picture where he was,
but now I'm getting off track.

I'll go.

I'll look that up later.

Yeah.

Well, you know, I think it's coming
back to me on what to expect and I

can play right there with you about
singling out a particular character,

this easy large ensemble movie, but
somebody that who's had my attention

from day one is Kumail Nanjiani.

He is an incredible actor.

Uh, very funny comedian.

He used to guest on a podcast.

I loved called Harmontown and
that was where I got my first

introduction to him as a person.

And he's fantastic.

And so the moment that he was
signed on to a terminals, I've been

really, really excited about it.

And that leads into the point that
I originally wrote, which is, I

think this movie is going to be a
lot funnier than I was originally

expecting because we've already had
like two standout moments, which is.

End of the second trailer shot where
Richard battens characters like, Hey,

what is this made out of vibranium?

And he smashes the table and he's, I think
it's Brian Henry or Henry something, man.

I really feel bad about not
being able to look stuff, but

we're so close to the movie.

I don't want to spoil it.

But anyway, the, the other characters
is like, no, it's Ikea fall collection.

Like that moment got a
little big laugh out of me.

Uh, the original trailer they had
that moment, Richard Madden was like,

oh, maybe I can lead the Avengers.

And everybody burst out laughing.

Jude: Uh, it was a Brian Tyree.

Trey: Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Pair that with just knowing how funny
Kumail Nanjiani has been in other

stuff, I'm expecting this to be no more,

Jude: more, but I would say
you heard what Nanjiani did.

No, like he got, from what I
understand, he got so excited about

being a superhero, Marvel moving all
that, that like overdid his workout.

Like he came back like two ripped yeah.

To shooting.

And it was like, dude, what did you say?

Like no back off,

Trey: maybe, maybe I'm not going
to find the levity I'm expecting.

We'll see.

Jude: No, I, I don't think it was
something that they had him too.

He just like, got so excited on
his own that went off and worked

out and, and got like two big.

Trey: I like tone it down, man.

Yeah.

So what about you?

Is there any other, uh,
expectations you, uh, Seattle.

Jude: Hmm.

Nope, that's it?

No, I'm teasing.

Um,

Trey: this is going to
be a real short episode.

Jude: You know what I'm I'm really,
I think this is the first time

let's see, thinking it through.

I'd have to double-check
Kenneth Bronner's work.

Cause I know he directed the
first store, but um, the director

of Chloe, like she wanted.

Best director last year.

Um, and this is the first time I think the
MCs had an Oscar winning director, right?

They've had Oscar winning talent,
uh, but not behind the helm.

And so I'm really curious, um, I'm really
curious of what that's going to do to me.

You know, talking about expectations of
like, is that raising my expectations

to a point where it's like, no, back off
it's a Marvel movie, you know what I mean?

Um, or should I be like, oh, I'm gonna,
I'm going to go in there with a little

bit more critical eye and expect a
little bit more out of this, uh, for

that, for that reason, the, so like
that's kind of been in the back of that.

Trey: Yeah, Chloe shall being attached
to this movie has been the talk.

Jude: I'm sorry.

Close out.

I don't know why I left the last
name out, like as if we're buddies.

Sorry.

Trey: Listen, you become buddies
and everybody asks why you

started calling them Kevin.

Uh, I think that's why
you just called them RD.

J in the beginning of our podcast, you
you're you're, you're very personable.

Jude: When I tweet out.

And Richard, you did it when
Richard and I converse on Twitter.

Fantastic.

The kit at the, you know,
that's a local grocery store.

Well,

Trey: you know, Camille and I go
way back, so, oh yeah, I get it.

Oh, But that's all I was going to say.

Yeah.

I mean, she, like, I think before anything
was seen of the movie, she was the draw.

Like that was a lot of what people
were talking about was Chloe

Zhao being attached to this.

So I don't know if I'm there with
you about raising my expectations

that way, but I, I would have to
be like a fool to deny that it has

raised the general expectations, uh,
because it's, it's a talking point.

Jude: It is well, and
they're promoting it.

Yeah.

Oscar winning card of the trailers.

Yeah.

Well, and you know what I mean,
part of it that, that promoted

promotion and it's right.

It's smart.

Like Kevin is making the right choice.

Uh, Kevin flag, he's
making the right choice.

I mean, you're potentially bringing
in a new audience, you know, I

mean, we, you have us the fan fan.

Um, or the diehard fans, I don't
know how you want to put it, then you

probably have the casual fans, right.

The nerds.

Um, then you have the casual fans
right there that are like, we kind

of talked about this with, um, you
seen all these, you even go see him

in the movie, but you're not really
diving into the minutiae kind of stuff.

Um, and you just have your
movie moviegoers and they're

like, Hey, what's out.

Um, and then.

You have the group that like, when
they have that, when they see that

Oscar winning or whatever, then that
peaks their interest more, you know?

So it's an opportunity to
bring in a whole new audience.

Trey: Yeah.

It's going to be interesting
to see the broad strokes it can

paint with, with that reach.

That's similar to what we talked about
with like Wanda vision of how that became.

Uh, jumping on point for a lot of people.

I'd be curious to see if the
internals becomes that for others.

You know, circling back to me.

Uh, one of my last expectations for
this film is there seems to be a huge

plot point about we do not interrupt.

This is something that has been
brought up in the trailers.

It's something that's been brought up at
the fandom of like, okay, well, if you all

have been around for so long, why didn't
you interfere with banjos or any of the

other tragedies of the human civilization?

And to say that my expectation is that
this is going to be a main driving factor.

The story, it feels like
a low-hanging fruit, but.

The reason why it's sticking out to
me is not because of the same way I

felt with the watcher and what if we
was like, okay, here's a character

who's adamant about not helping.

Okay.

We'll see him help at some point, but
more so the way the trailers have.

Is them repeatedly saying like, oh,
we can't help with scenes of them

helping human civilization and also
talking about how much they loved

humans and watching them grow.

So I think pairing that with another
feeling of different scenes of

them kind of rallying the team
back together, I think there is

going to be a storyline about.

Some of them holding to that idea
of them not helping some of them

clearly helping human civilization.

And I think that's where a lot of our
conflict is going to derive from their

different stances on that ideology.

And it may get to the point similar
to the watcher where we see something

happening, where they all have to unify.

But I think the bulk of our
conflict is going to be this.

Dealing with their
mandate not to interfere.

And I'm excited about that.

Jude: Yeah.

Like I, that is one thing that they
have to wrestle with and I, and

I trust them to handle it well.

Um, and from the last trailer, the
final trailer, you get a sense as to

why, and you mentioned it with the
watcher kind of a watcher situation.

Um, And that's the other thing I found
interesting about this is like, what

I expect the eternal is to be like
saying power level and either they are

extremely loyal to their oath or have
a tremendous amount of fear of who

they made their oath to, which then
you got to upscale the power again.

You know, uh, so, so I I'm really
interested to see how that plays out.

Trey: Yeah.

And the power levels is something
I didn't even think about.

Cause like Richard Madden's
character based on everything

we've seen, the trailer is
basically a Superman type figure.

Uh, there was another character who
was creating water out of nothing.

So the power skills that they
are dealing with is immeasurable

and it will be interesting to see
how they wrestle with that scale.

And that do not interfere
mandate from whoever it is.

They potentially are afraid of

Jude: man.

Yeah.

Like I'm, I'm trying to think through
how are they going to do that?

And then I don't know.

I don't know.

That's, that's, that's probably
the, the biggest question for me

now, what I will say, what are
the things along those lines?

What I find interesting, or I
really am looking forward to seeing.

One of the characters on the, I am DB.

And again, I'm saying this, assuming
the people that are listening,

you know, I'm not trying to give
a spoiler if that makes sense.

Um, but listed one of the characters
listed as Gilgamesh, and I'm really

curious to see and knowing the timeframe
of like, it's going to expand a long

time of, you know, human history,
earth history, to what degree and how.

Are they going to interweave
folklore myth, religions?

Um, let me see.

We, you know, Gilgamesh is on here, right?

Um, what else?

Uh, and it makes sense, right?

I already mentioned Mesopotamia, you
know, Babylon, uh, and those things.

And so I'm really curious.

What I mean, you're, you're spending a
lot of time, you know, uh, on earth, many

thousands of years, it only makes sense.

They're going to interweave
global cultural folklore and

myths and religions and all that.

So I'm really curious to see how
they wrestle with that, how they

handle that, or if they just try to
like side step it and not do that.

Trey: Yeah.

And we've seen them do
it before, too, right.

With the Norse mythology and,
and Thor and all of them where

they see you plays it straight.

Like they exist.

That's what inspired the myths and
the folklore and the religions.

Jude: I mean, are they
going to do it that way?

Kind of like they exist, but
we're like a higher being, right.

So you have this like Pantheon
of gods kind of thing.

Oh, or is it where these higher
God-like beings and human limited

knowledge we're experiencing the
internals and whatnot through.

Our own human means these myths
and folklores and religion.

So, so that's what I mean, like, I'm
really curious which way they're going

to take that because has the north
Smith right with Thor is like, is

they're on another world and they're
real unlike like, you know, like

what you said, like it inspired that,
but I'm just so I'm really curious.

Yeah.

Uh, and then lastly, this is
evidence textual evidence from the.

The X-Men are coming.

He mentioned it vibrate.

We have not had vibranium at
all of the MCU and he says it

by name vibranium, vibranium.

Yeah.

Oh, is that what you're thinking?

I'm so caught up in

the like radio mode and extra winds
coming and it's like, no, dammit.

I was taken out of magnesium.

Nevermind.

I'm stupid.

Trey: You're not, you are
such a convincing actor.

You got me captain America,

Jude: the podcast I've
heard of this podcast

Trey: too.

Don't direct people away.

Jude: Oh man, that Tara does a great job.

It doesn't get out of
anti-everything vibranium confused.

Trey: You're excited.

You're very excited.

Jude: EMC, rewind beliefs.

They would never have

from what I've heard from.

Probably wouldn't have
messed that up either.

I'm trying to give

Trey: you an out, but you keep
making it funny that I wanted to stay

Jude: print angel.

Oh man.

I had a good run.

Trey: What I was going to say is you
sold that so well, I was questioning

my own knowledge of like, wait,
what is cap sealed made out of?

It's not vibranium.

And I was like doing circles on my head.

Oh, man, it's good to be back.

Well, I think, no, I think those are
wrapping up our expectations and we are

going to lead into this question and
you know what, you know, you didn't, you

Jude: weren't talking about like having a
bar of expectations and it not being met

and being disappointed going in expecting
Adam angioma and you find out it's fibro.

Trey: Oh, that's fantastic.

Well, you know, you mentioned earlier
that this movie is spanning a huge

swath of time in human history, and
it makes sense that in order for this

movie to accomplish that, It is going to
be the second longest movie in the MCU

at just over two hours and 30 minutes.

So the question that we're going to
end this episode with is just kind

of less of a question, but just
reflections on movie length in the MCU.

So, Jude, do you have any thoughts
on longer movies like this?

You know what?

Jude: It's weird.

Okay.

So there's Lord of the rings.

That was long, all three.

And then there's the extended edition,
which I love, um, infinity war.

If you gave me another 20 minutes of
infinity war, I have been fine in game.

If you were to gave me
another 20, 30 minutes of it.

I would've sat through it, you know?

Um, and so movie length is interesting
because from a studio's perspective,

uh, financially you start getting
into how many runs a day can you do?

And that cuts in Nevada line.

Um, you know, if it's not well
paced, uh, then people might get

ancy and get forward saving private.

Ryan was a long movie.

I love.

That doesn't feel long.

And what I find fascinating about all
that is like, and I mean, as a teacher,

I see it like the shorter and shorter
attention spans that people have.

And even younger people have because
they're so used to the YouTube content,

you know, reels take talk the shorter
things, but it doesn't seem to bother us.

A movies are getting longer and.

Eating it up.

So I'm okay.

I'm excited about it.

You know, to

Trey: play off of that, like
that has been the conversation I

have seen on film Twitter lately
with dune, uh, no time to die.

Um, there's another one I'm forgetting
where these movies have just.

Two and a half hours seems to be
the norm now, like that is how long

these big blockbuster, blockbuster
movies are turning out to be.

And it's such a weird, like, I put
it on the outline, but it's such

a weird question because it is
so dependent on the movie, right?

Like if the movie is good.

Yeah.

Give me more, like, I will sit through
more infinity war more in game.

Like, I'll take as much as I can.

They have, but it's hard to assess
that on this side of that viewing

Jude: experience, not
always, not always, but okay.

How so?

Well, The Snyder cut was four hours
long and I hadn't seen it and I

knew it was going to be a slog of
a terrible watch before I saw it.

And I didn't need to see it to know
that my watch only confirmed it.

Sorry, Daniel.

You're going to make brother Dale.

Sorry,

Trey: but, uh, but yeah, no,
like I don't, I I'm totally down.

I do like.

Especially going to the theater,
like going for those two and a half

hour to three hour movie experience.

Like I eat that up, but
it can also go so wrong.

Fraternals I have enough trust in the
MCU to be like, okay, I'm down for this.

Um, second to longest
movie entry in the MCU.

Yeah.

Jude: Yeah.

Cause it's it's well, like w
like, what are your critiques

of carnage venom to was like you
said, you felt every minute of it.

And one of the things people
were praising about it was.

How quick it felt.

Like, they just got to it.

So, so it really is going to be
dependent upon the experience.

Trey: You know, I'm reminded of
James guns, the suicide squad.

I don't know if you've seen it yet.

Jude: I have not.

I, I need to, I've gotten,
you're rubbing off on me.

I'm I'm having, I'm struggling
to watch things now, when people

would tell me to watch it, it's
like the death, the kiss of death.

It's like how I'll never see it now.

Trey: Meanwhile, I've
been so excited this week.

Cause I finished squid game.

Like I'm patting myself on the
back for completing a series

that is not Marvel, but a.

Oh, man, where was I gonna go?

Oh, so at Jay's guns, the suicide squad,
I was talking to leach and the moment I

finished the movie, I texted her and I was
like, how is it possible to like a movie?

And also feel like it was way too long.

Like that movie did not need to
be as long as it needed to be.

And so.

I dunno, I, I guess I want
to kind of re reassess where

I land on this movie length.

Uh, and, and maybe it is just my own
bias of the MCU of like, okay, cool.

I'll take whatever cut we can get

Jude: of it.

I run of Lord of the rings.

I'm talking about the original trilogy.

Um, the Hobbit, the first.

Um, entry of that trilogy, you,
I felt every minute of that.

Yeah.

The second entry was much more well
paced and it was long, but it was

like, oh, wow, that went quick.

Uh, the third one.

I haven't seen yet, so I can't comment.

Trey: Wow.

I didn't

Jude: know.

You didn't finish it.

Oh my gosh.

Not only could I have, did I not see it?

We got that from Redbox one time and
they started charging us late fees.

Cause we never returned it
because we were going to watch it.

We could end up buying the movie for
what we ended up spending in late fees.

And we still had never watched it.

It was just one of those things.

It was hard to bring me to see it.

Cause that's just, I so badly wanted it
to be as good as the original trilogy.

And it just wasn't.

Trey: Yeah.

I, I I've seen all three.

I have no desire to see them all again.

And like they are the
only of those two series.

Like I haven't seen the extended
cuts of the Hobbit and I'd

really don't plan to either

Jude: well, and there's
parts of the Hobbit.

The first one that I loved,
I loved Thor, no congealed.

Anyways, we're not talking about
the Hobbit, but there's things

that I loved of it, but all that to
reinforce this thing of, of, of, you

know, Pete, well, put it this way.

Peter Jackson from the first three
had our trust and having a long

movie, you know, And let us down.

Um, but I Marvel has my trust.

Trey: I guess you just solve
the reflections right here.

It is.

It all comes down to that
trust because Marvel movies.

Yes.

The more time, the better I'm down for it.

Uh, I brought up no time to die.

The James Bond movie, I just
recently saw that last weekend.

I had all the trust in the world despite
knowing how long it was, because I

have genuinely liked those movies.

So, uh, Yeah, I think that's
a nice bow to put on that.

So I appreciate you framing it that way.

Well, yeah, of course.

We want to hear what you think
specifically on this topic

of movie lengths in the MCU.

Do you want longer movies, shorter movies.

Where is that sweet spot?

Uh, you can let us know on social
media at MC you needed on Twitter and

Instagram, or if you'd like to write us.

MC you need to know@gmail.com is
where you can write to us there.

Jude: And of course, scroll down to
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on our link to join our discord, a
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All kinds of topics, got a lot of
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Make sure you click on the roll-ups line
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you access to all the spoiler channels.

Uh, by the time this episode drops,
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Um, and of course, if you'd like
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Sharing with a

Trey: friend.

Yeah.

I'd also like to thank Nick Sandy for
the use of our theme song, which is

his rendition of the Avengers theme.

You can find more of his work
on a SoundCloud, which is

also linked in the show notes.

That's going to do it.

Thank you so much for listening and Jude.

Thank you so much for doing this.

Thank you tray.

We'll see you all next week.

Alright.

I love that.

As you were getting sinked,
I just got a discord message.

And all I read was from friend.

Daniel's saying, Trey, you
should be a same Danny.

So I think there's something.

Let me

Jude: see.

He's live reacting.

And he said, Trey, doesn't
recognize Danny elephant.

Trey: Listen, I got no defense.

I just like stuff.

I don't go that far.

This.

Oh, yeah, this is weird.

I'm live reacting to his library.

This is one a hundred, a bit, 100%
of bitten Bo Burnham's inside.

Oh, that's so funny.

I'm going to have to mute this.

Otherwise I'm going to be
distracted all episode, my friend

Daniel's life to live reactions.

How long do you think we're going to
be an hour, eight hours, 24 hours?

How long should I mute this?

An hour?

Okay.

It is, it is just the, what to expect.